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Not often. Now, if I didn't do medicine, I'd probably try to become a professional blogger. In fact, I work as a phlebotomist and this same struggle exists in our community clinic. I don't ever work clinic on weekends, but you can end up taking phone- call. Some things I enjoy doing: traveling, photography, videography, techie toys, eating copious amounts of food, reading the internet, sports, basketball, working out, figuring out what to do with my money, and being as lazy as I can possibly be. Volunteered at the hospital doing non-clinical things. [–]MedaviationMS3 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (5 children). Do you feel that FM will ever get boring for you? hey just a FP, how hard is it to land a hospitalist job? Hey I'm in the Midwest! At a community hospital, I found that the attendings just really liked to teach instead of them testing your knowledge base. How often did you play ball and lift throughout med school/residency/now? What was your backup plan if becoming a physician didn't work out for you? Exactly! Although I realized it's a bit small for my tastes which is why we are moving. I currently practice as an employed physician in a large multi-specialty medical group. [–]TofutigerMS1-CAN 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (5 children). Denver, Colorado 2. [–]euclid4MS1 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (6 children). Visit PayScale to research family physician / doctor salaries by city, experience, skill, employer and more. I In many parts of the country, a family physician would be lucky to earn even $160,000 annually. On a side note I never had the greatest grades or board scores so that ruled out several other specialties. Do you think patients recognize any differences with a DO vs an MD? Thanks for the suggestion. I also see physicians whine and complain about every little thing. I was half-joking, but that's awesome that you'd actually let me shadow. Any type of national or regional policy will have it's own problems as you know, you can't design a healthcare policy that works for everyone. Description. If you're serious send me a message. 4) Follow up on did you even plan out for your work to be this chill or did it just happen or is FM just like this whereas other fields are more demanding? It's nice to hear from the other side and dispel some of misconceptions that premeds hear often. Phitsanulok and Chiang Mai. Like, they need to make sure the right number of nursing staff, PSRs, and other ancillary staff can be there when I want to be there too. [–]spareanyexchangeREAPPLICANT :'( 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children), That's so funny, I'm an American at a big Canadian school hoping to go back to the states after graduating. But I've never had to step foot in the office/clinic on a weekend or holiday, [–]moneybags493MS3 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children). Kind of like what a direct primary care model is like. Clinical volunteering necessary with many clinical hours? I will add to OP's comment about #4: step 1 studying is highly variable between medical schools and medical students. At that point, you've accrued ~200k in debt, and with interest, will end up paying ~400k when all is said and done. Our generation is never going to have to worry about this. I might road trip down there because food. Had to think about the spelling for a while...but ultimately was too lazy to cross reference it on Google. What is STEP1 studying really like? Do you like your job? 6) I've worked running my parents' small business, and did a lot of odd and ends hard labor type jobs in high school and college. I personally don't feel worried about systems hiring PAs/NPs - but there should still be a good, ethical supervising physician overseeing things. Physician shortages and demand for family physician jobs . You're welcome! It's better to say you don't know than to take a wild guess or act like a know-it-all med student. Specifically, please be respectful to your fellow posters. They've never asked me to "look at something" out in public lol. That sounds great! Dr. Frakes is a board-certified family medicine physician. Can i make up for that during med school or after med school when im practicing? [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children). In many health systems, physicians are compensated on a pay for production model. Sometimes I have patients come to me from other providers and I'm appalled by the management and care they've been getting elsewhere - shortsightedness, lack of knowledge of current guidelines, irresponsible care, giving controlled substances to patients with substance abuse history, list goes on. Figured I'd open one up here to. My fiancée is finishing PA school this year and I hope to go into family medicine. [–]hsmooth83[S] 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago (2 children). No idea what specialty I'll end up in, but I plan on traveling as much as humanly possible. [–]alkapwnee 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child), I suppose this is where I say, "you can be beautiful on the inside as well". Your post-residency life sounds like my dream... [–]hsmooth83[S] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (4 children). Work smarter, not necessarily harder. Saw them in my clinic. There IS a light at the end of the tunnel. I was so lucky - the med school I went to had the nicest gym I've EVER been in. Like a few less trips / vacations per year. We adopt the same rules regarding recruitment for research studies as r/medicalschool, seen here. I understand it's highly variable depending on personal preference, employer, region, culture, etc., but I just want to get a ballpark idea. To ask a specific set of questions and click the right boxes in the patients charts to follow 'meaningful use' and get credit for doing certain things. I bring home my work computer maybe once every 2 weeks to catch up on notes. There comes a point when there is diminishing returns. 501 to 1000 employees. Employer name has been removed to protect anonymity. Coincidentally, those are highly valued skills as a physician. They don't have as much vacation time as we do, or they choose to spend their vacation time staying at home doing housework. Exceptions? I love being a family physician. They want to do things 'naturally'. I'm not going into medicine for the pay but accruing all these loans nad being in debt 400k+ and making in the 100-low 200 range when other areas of medicine are well above 200 seems like i would be selling myself short or something. A few years later, patient had gone through a series of tests, eventually had an LVAD and now had a heart transplant...all in this patient who was my age. Generally speaking you get your patients that: Then you probably have other things to work on too to be less stressed. They had live jazz band that evening too and it was a great night out. I currently work 4.5 days a week. [–]hsmooth83[S] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children). starting the reapp process as I still have no II. It was all or nothing at that time. Everyone in here has a story and a problem. The list goes on and on... [–]alkapwnee 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child). Figured I'd open one up here to. According to the Medscape Physician Compensation Report, in 2018, Primary Care Physicians in the United States earned on average $237,000, while Specialists earned $341,000. In no particular order. :), [–]hsmooth83[S] 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]gotlactosePHYSICIAN 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children). Sometimes I run a little bit over if we end up talking about end of care goals or other things like that. Yes, some times I do feel like a 'cog in a giant machine'. Nah, not super hard to get hospitalist job. It seems like these days most people within the medical community know what a DO is. And it can feel like I'm burned out. First and foremost, thank you for the detail, honesty, and overall genuine manner with which you're doing this AMA! [–]hsmooth83[S] 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children). If so, what kind? On my busy days in clinic I estimate I can generate about $1700 in pre-taxed income. The actual material isn't super difficult, but you had to learn so much in so little time is what made it more difficult. You may end up working really hard to make an extra $50,000, but it ends up only being an extra $25,000 net in your pocket after taxes and expenses are paid for. They are paying all my relocation costs and also have a 5 figure signing bonus too. The lowest average physician salaries among the most-requested searches were paid to family medicine physicians, with an average salary of $239,000, down just slightly from the previous year. Also, would you have gone to a cheaper school, if you had the option - any regrets? In some places, it's really taken off. I know of at least a handful if not more marriages that came out of people dating within med school or between med school classes. As you know the health care system is complicated. I remember people hooking up during med school with other med school classmates. I don't know terribly much about the inner workings of medical school, only general process, so I have plenty of questions. After 30 seconds explaining it to them, they're usually like 'ok, sweet! Instead of a traditional fee for service, some physicians are charging a monthly retainer fee. It seems to be a trend now to practice with multiple other doctors. [–]hsmooth83[S] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (4 children). What is the most interesting case you have encountered? Like pick up extra urgent care shifts. I just met with a new doctor yesterday and felt cut off from saying anything. [–]palindromic_sequenceMS3 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. I would say your rotations you do as a med student probably influence your choice of specialty more than anything you did as a premed. I heard sports medicine isn't really competitive and it might help you make your way into an Ortho practice...similar to EM fellowship helping in ER. I don't want to be stuck working or being on call most of my time. They'll just make you second guess yourself. The "meet and greet" lasted 5 minutes where I found out next to nothing about him and him about me. Was probably poo poo'ed by the ER as nothing. Typically, 5-8 weeks. Everyone has to listen to the administrators. Or become medical director for some community programs. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). They also are more curious and sometimes even want to learn a few osteopathic techniques for themselves. Has anyone ever asked, "What is a DO?". I'm a Canadian and I obtained my loans from Canadian financial institutes. They have been in practice many years more than me so I'm not afraid to run cases with them either even if they're 'just' a PA/NP. Life can be really good when you're done with all the exams, school, and training. 2) How often have you used OMM in your practice? Something still wasn't right. All submissions are required to include a tag so that they can be flaired and sorted. Please post only on-topic premed posts or questions. You make less money if you live in high cost of living major cities like NYC, Boston, on the west coast. Which part of Thailand did you go to? # of patients whose diabetes is well controlled, well controlled hypertension, % of people getting their cancer screening done, etc). You're gonna be on call every 3rd day. My appointment slots are either 15 minutes or 30 minutes. Family Medicine Physician (BOARD CERTIFIED) COMPETITIVE SALARY* EXCELLENT BENEFITS* LOAN REPAYMENT *FOREIGN WAIVERS APPROVED. I may have missed it? Socially, this was probably the best time though. Amplify Dr. Khoury's story and keep Kaiser's new medical school accountable. This includes discussion of filesharing or sources of pirated materials (e.g. Paperwork, dealing with crappy insurance policies, doing chart notes, difficult / annoying / smart ass patients / drug seekers. [–]skyguy246MS1 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children). He was later diagnosed with stage IV lung cancer and passed not long after. By choosing to practice in the active Army, you'll receive a comprehensive benefits package that includes a competitive salary and financial incentives such as medical school loan repayment. Plus all the other "classic" answers like: you get to know your patients over time, develop long lasting physician-patient relationships, see people from birth to death, etc etc. You definitely need to hit up Charleston. 1) I don't make as much as a specialist, but for the kind of work I do I think I get compensated more than fairly. Along the same train of thought, what non-clinical experiences did you have, and what did you feel was most meaningful? I've been asked by my own patients perhaps 5 times in the last 3 years what a DO is. If you want to end up doing research or academics at a prestigious university, then maybe MD may be better? Ah well. Glad you're my doc'. Or give talks at your YMCA or college. However, the more specialized you get or the smaller your specialty group, the more call you'll take so the harder it would be to actually get away. are most of these people your classmates? My wife is a physician assistant. [–]spareanyexchangeREAPPLICANT :'( 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children). 2) Which class did you find the hardest in medical school? How many hours do you work in a given day and how many patients do you see? [–]hsmooth83[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]nejikonADMITTED-MD 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (9 children). [–]hsmooth83[S] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children). Assuming absolutely no more growth in salary … Do you live comfortably? In terms of time for hobbies: Not sure what they'll do with some of these laws, but there is a significant portion of America that depends on immigrant physicians for health care. Have your student loans been overbearing, if you have any? If you don't mind me asking, how exactly did you negotiate such high salaries in family medicine? Site Director for the Rural Training Track Residency Program designed to support and fulfill the mission and purpose of Family Medicine Residency of the Mississippi Delta. I feel like I am (hopefully) reading about my future. 3) Well, your typical "lifestyle" specialties are radiology, ophthalmology, anesthesia, dermatology. We live comfortably af. [–]Stitch_Rose 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: RULES. Thought something wasn't right. It's crazy, and an honor, to be a part of your patient's life. It's not very popular where I'm currently living, but I've heard and seen mixed results in other parts of the country. Please wait until your account has reached the age/karma limit and then try to post again. I wanted a good outpatient based education in residency. Rounds about every other Sat (about 2 hrs) with 3 hrs of clinic 1 in 4 Sat. I'm on the west coast though, so it's not really plausible. So I've turned down a few small town / rural offers that would have paid me much, much more $ to move to the city. 325k per year pre tax. You'll also enjoy a reasonable work-life balance that provides pl… [–]billythegruffgoat 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children). I enjoyed some of the 'fluff' courses like history and art in medicine. Rendered by PID 17300 on r2-app-0d42dc13095ebb974 at 2021-01-01 23:44:39.280389+00:00 running c709bd6 country code: US. Gorilla trekking in Rwanda / Uganda. I value lifestyle a lot. What are thoughts about the trend of family medicine salary rising? Location, location, location. But also don't forget to take time to enjoy life even if you're going through premed classes, MCAT studying, med school admissions, exams, and Step 1, 2, 3. My new job I'll be working just 4 days a week. From my perspective, as someone going in med-peds, the major disadvantage of FM is that the training is too superficial, they do not get the respect they merit from their colleagues, there's no potential for subspecialization, and the pay is inadequate. Is that true? So you work 4.5 days per week, get weekends and holidays off, and get 5-8 weeks of vacation? [–]hsmooth83[S] 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children). If you get bored - you can always do other things. Thank goodness! [–]DemNeuronsMS4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). Don't spend too much time deliberating life and applications with other premeds. Just curious, I know you said you'll probably have a net worth of around 1 million when you are 39- is that with potential kids? Leaning towards IM. If they did I'd tell them to just come in and see me. 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